Daniel 12 Prophecy Foretold The Desolation Of The Jews

This Olivet Discourse Deception study is about the fulfillment of Daniel 12, and the desolation of the temple, the city and the Jews.

In the 70 weeks of Daniel prophecy (Daniel 9:24-27) he was told when the long-awaited Messiah would appear, be anointed, and offer a new covenant. But he was also told that his people (the Jews) and Jerusalem would be desolated, because they would deliver the Messiah up to be killed.

This caused Daniel such great distress, that he mourned for three weeks.

The fresh communication from heaven in Chapters 10, 11 and 12, was for the express purpose of enabling Daniel to understand matters concerning his people, which had not been disclosed by the prophecy of the Seventy Weeks.

The 70 weeks of Daniel prophecy has nothing to do with the end times, as it was fulfilled during the 490 years from 457 B.C. to 34 A.D.

Daniel 10 and 11 describe what would take place during that time, and Daniel 12 gives more information about the desolation of the Jews in 70 A.D. Most false teachings on prophecy are a result of the teacher not understanding how the prophecy has already been fulfilled, so they speculate that it must be future.

Daniel 10 records his sorrow and the purpose of the angel’s message.

In those days I, Daniel, was mourning three full weeks. I ate no pleasant food, no meat or wine came into my mouth, nor did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.” Daniel 10:2-3

So the angel returned to Daniel to help him understand the 70 weeks of Daniel prophecy.

Now I have come to make you understand what will happen to your people in the latter days, for the vision refers to many days yet to come.” Daniel 10:14

My lord, because of the vision my sorrows have overwhelmed me, and I have retained no strength.” Daniel 10:16

During their 70 year captivity in Babylon, Jerusalem and the temple laid in ruins, so they had no home. The “former days” of Israel’s national existence occurred before their Babylonian captivity.

The “latter days” of Israel’s national existence began when they were released by Cyrus in 457 B.C. to go rebuild Jerusalem and the temple; and they ended in 70 A.D., when the Roman army destroyed the city, temple and people.

Note: If a prophecy teacher applies the term “latter days” to the end times, you now know that their teaching is out of context.

Daniel 11 gives the continuous historical narrative of events that would take place during the latter days.

This time frame spanned 490 years, so there are detailed accounts of its fulfillment by historians. Here’s a list of key figures who fulfilled the prophecy of Daniel 11:

The Father used Cyrus, leader of Medes-Persia, to set the Jews free from Babylonian captivity, and to empower them to rebuild the city of Jerusalem and the temple.

Alexander the Great of Greece rose up and ruled with great dominion.

The Seleucids (kings of Syria, “the north”) and the Ptolemies (kings of Egypt, “the south”) had incessant wars.

Antiochus Epiphanes, the vile person, surrounded Jerusalem with his armies (the abomination of desolation) and killed 10’s of thousands of Jews. They defiled the sanctuary and caused the daily sacrifice to be taken away for 2,300 days (Daniel 8:14). His persecution of the Jews began in 171 B.C. and the temple was cleansed on December 25, 165 B.C., which is 2,300 days.

The Maccabean uprisings delivered the Jews in the reign of Antiochus, and faithfully served their people as rulers and priests for 130 years.

King Herod exalted himself above all gods (leaders). To protect his kingdom, he decreed for the slaughter of the babes of Bethlehem, in an attempt to kill Messiah as a baby.

Caesar Augustus conquered many countries such as Egypt, and took power of their treasures.

Many prophecy teachers incorrectly apply Daniel 11 verses to an end-times Antichrist, but the context clearly shows that they are not, and that history has confirmed their fulfillment.

Seventh-Day Adventists apply the day-for-a-year concept to the 2,300 days, making it 2,300 years from 457 A.D. to 1844 A.D, which they initially said was the year Messiah would return. Obviously He didn’t return, so now they call the period after 1844 A.D., the period of Investigative Judgment. But you can clearly see that it was 2,300 days, not years.

Daniel 12 records the details he was given regarding the desolation of his people.

Daniel 12:1

And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as never was since there was a nation, Even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, Every one who is found written in the book.”

This lines up with the warning in Jeremiah 30:7, “Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.

And it lines up with Messiah’s words in Matthew 24:21, “For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.”

Note: The 70th week of Daniel was fulfilled by Messiah, so His Olivet Discourse and some of His parables warned about this time. His Olivet Discourse is not about the end times, it’s about the great tribulation that would come upon the Jews from 66-70 A.D.

As you will see in the timeline below, the desolation of the Jews was horrific, but all of the elect (spiritual Jews) escaped Jerusalem, and none were lost.

Daniel 12:2

And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, some to shame and everlasting contempt.”

This isn’t about Messiah’s second coming, rather it’s about waking up people who are spiritually dead.

Referring to the beginning of Messiah’s ministry, Matthew 4:14-16 says, “The people who sat in darkness have seen a great light, And upon those who sat in the region and shadow of death, Light has dawned. From that time Jesus began to preach and to say, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”

Messiah said, “The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God, and they that hear shall live.” John 5:25

Paul affirmed this, “Therefore He says: “Awake, you who sleep, Arise from the dead, And Christ will give you light.” Ephesians 5:14

Messiah, the Light of the World, shined on them during His 3.5 year ministry, which occurred during the 70th week of Daniel. Some accepted Him as their Messiah and were saved to everlasting life; some rejected Him and were condemned.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” John 3:16

He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” John 3:18

When Paul preached the gospel to the Jews in Antioch, they rejected his message.

Paul responded with “It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles.” Acts 13:46

This fulfills Messiah’s parable of the Wedding Feast, that when the Jews rejected Him as their Messiah and they persecuted and killed His servants, He responded with,

But when the king heard about it, he was furious. And he sent out his armies, destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.”

Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding is ready, but those who were invited were not worthy. Therefore go into the highways, and as many as you find, invite to the wedding.'”

Daniel 12:3

Those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament, And those who turn many to righteousness like the stars forever and ever.” Daniel 12:3

Messiah disciples shined the light of the gospel and many were saved.

Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.” Matthew 5:16

“How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, Who bring glad tidings of good things!” Romans 10:15

Daniel 12:4

But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”

This is not talking about the end of time, but the time of the end of the latter days of Israel.

These words bring the prophecy to an end; and it is not difficult to see the resemblance they bear to the final words of Matthew 28:19-20,

Go therefore (run to and fro) and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching (increase knowledge) them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

The day spring of true knowledge from on high waited upon the footsteps of the apostles of Messiah, as they traversed the Gentile world, dispelling darkness, and doubt and fear, and diffusing light, and confidence and joy over every condition of human life.

Colossians 1:26-27 verifies the unveiling of knowledge, “the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints. To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.”

Daniel 12:6

Daniel asked for more information about the desolation of Jerusalem and the Jews.

How long shall the fulfillment of these wonders be?

Daniel 12:7

The angel answered, “it shall be for a time, times, and half a time; and when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these things shall be finished.”

The time, times, and half a time is 1260 days or 3.5 years, which occurred from Dec.. 66 A.D. to July 70 A.D.

The holy people are the Jews, who were shattered by the Roman army.

If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.” Luke 19:42-44

Note: This is not about the end times where there is great tribulation in the whole world, rather it is about the Jews in Judea being shattered because of their rejection of the Messiah.

Daniel 12:8

Although I heard, I did not understand. Then I said, “My lord, what shall be the end of these things?”

He was asking how the “time of trouble” (which was spoken of in verse 1) would end.

It is the same period as that to which Messiah was referring when He said in Luke 21:22, “these be the days of vengeance that all things that are written may be fulfilled.”

Daniel 12:9

And he (the angel) said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.”

Again, it doesn’t say “the end of time” as in the last days; but “the time of the end” of the prophecy regarding the Jewish national existence.

Messiah’s book of Revelation (written in 95 A.D.) describes the fulfillment of many of the prophecies of Daniel, so knowledge of their fulfillment increased after the time of the end, after the latter days of the Jews national existence ended in 70 A.D.

Daniel 12:10

Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.”

The precious shed blood of the Lamb of Elohim made many pure, white and refined.

And He(Messiah) said to them, “For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.” Matthew 26:28

But the wicked did not understand the time of Messiah’s coming.

Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, saying, “If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.” Luke 19:41-44

And they rejected their promised Messiah.

Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.” Matthew 23:32-36

And the wicked Jewish leaders delivered Him up to be crucified.

Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”
Luke 23:34

Daniel 12:11,12

And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he who waits (i.e., survives, or endures), and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.”

This tells us that the interval of time between when the abomination of desolation occurred and when the daily sacrifice was taken away, was 1,290 days.

Daniel 12:13

But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.”

So let’s see how Daniel 12 was fulfilled on the timeline.

Day 1 – Nov. 66 A.D.

The first approach of the Roman army under Cestius surrounded the city, which was the “abomination of desolation” that Messiah warned the disciples about.

Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ ; spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.” Matthew 24:15-16

This is confirmed in the corollary passage of Luke 21:20-21, “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.”

Note: The abomination of desolation had to be something that the disciples could see. An idol placed in the temple would not be seen except by the priests. For more information, read the Abomination Of Desolation Deception

The Jewish historian Josephus records that Cestius made such rapid progress that the city was on the point of being captured.

The seditious element fled in large numbers, and the peaceable inhabitants were about to throw open the gates to the Romans, when a remarkable thing took place, so unaccountable from any natural standpoint that it can only be attributed to the direct intervention of God, and for the fulfillment of the word of Christ.

Josephus tells how the people were about to admit Cestius as their benefactor, when he suddenly recalled his soldiers and retired from the city without any reason in the world.

Had he not withdrawn when he did, the city and the sanctuary would, of course, have been spared; and Josephus says it was, I suppose, owing to the aversion God already had towards the city and the sanctuary that he (Cestius) was hindered from putting an end to the war that very day (II 19:6).

This happened because Messiah promised His disciples a way of escape, that ‘when they should see the abomination of desolation’ (the idolatrous Roman armies, with the images of their idols in their ensigns) ready to lay Jerusalem desolate, ‘stand where it ought not,’ ‘in the holy place‘ of Jerusalem; they should then ‘flee to the mountains‘.

They escaped and Josephus did not record one death of a Christian at the hands of the Romans.

Roman Commander Titus and his army division was then sent to Judea, where they killed Jews in outlying cities, and then surrounded Jerusalem.

During this time, Nero, the Emperor of Rome died, so the Roman army stayed camped around the city of Jerusalem, awaiting further orders.

They tried to get the Jews to surrender, but the Jews were emboldened because they saw the Father cause the first division of the Roman army leave for no reason, so the Jews warred against the Romans.

When Vespasian was declared Emperor in 69 A.D., Titus (Vespasian’s son) was commanded to end the Jewish rebellion. For this achievement Titus was awarded a triumph; the Arch of Titus commemorates his victory to this day.

The 70 weeks of Daniel prophecy foretold the people of the prince coming to desolate the city and the temple.

And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood. ” Daniel 9:26

And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate.” Daniel 9:27

Of this period of great tribulation Josephus says, in the introduction of his ‘Wars of the Jews‘ historical documentary.

“It had come to pass that our city Jerusalem had arrived at a higher degree of felicity than any other city under the Roman government, and yet at last fell into the sorest of calamities again. Accordingly it appears to me that the misfortunes of all men from the beginning of the world, if they be compared to those of the Jews, are not so considerable as they were.”

The sufferings of the Jews had this peculiar characteristic, namely, that they were mostly inflicted upon themselves by the warring factions within the city, concerning whom Joseph says in another place:–

“It is impossible to go distinctly over every instance of these men’s iniquity. I shall, therefore, speak my mind here at once briefly: That neither did any other city ever suffer such miseries, nor did any age ever breed a generation more fruitful in wickedness than this was, from the beginning of the world” (Wars V. 10:5).

Because the Romans had surrounded the walled city, the food supply was cut off and the Jews were trapped inside.

As a result, 100′s of thousands of Jews died:

From infighting, as different factions warred against each other.

From starvation and disease.

From being crucified by the Romans when the Jews tried to find food outside of the city walls. Hundreds of people a night were caught and crucified outside the city walls, so many in fact, that trees had multiple bodies hung on them.

Josephus recorded that one man, by consent from his family, killed his parents, his wife, his children, and then himself, in order to escape a much worse fate at the hands of the wicked people in the city.

but the wicked shall do wickedly..” Daniel 12:10

Day 1290 – July 70 A.D.

The Roman army breached the walls of Jerusalem and the daily sacrifice was taken away.

Josephus has recorded the very date on which it occurred, saying:

“And now Titus gave orders to his soldiers that were with him to dig up the foundations of the tower of Antonia, and make a ready passage for his army to come up, while he himself had Josephus brought to him; for he had been informed that, on that very day, which was the seventeenth day of Panemus, the sacrifice called ‘the daily sacrifice’ had failed, and had not been offered to God for want of men to offer it; and that the people were grievously troubled at it” (Wars, VI. 2.1.).

1,290 days had passed from when the the abomination of desolation (the Roman army under Cestius) appeared; until “the daily sacrifice was taken away.

Messiah had warned about the bloodshed that would come on this generation.

And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.” Luke 21:24

This fulfilled Matthew 24:29, as the High Priest (Sun), the High Council (moon) and the Jewish religious leaders (stars) were removed from power, their leadership darkened forever.

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.”

This fulfilled the Parable of the Wicked Vinedressers” where the wicked tenants killed the son of the vineyard owner.

But when the vinedressers saw him, they reasoned among themselves, saying, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him, that the inheritance may be ours.’ So they cast him out of the vineyard and killed him. Therefore what will the owner of the vineyard do to them? He will come and destroy those vinedressers and give the vineyard to others.” Luke 20:14-15

This fulfilled Messiah’s words of Woe to the scribes and the Pharisees.

Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.” Matthew 23:34-36

Recall what the Jewish leaders said when they handed Messiah over to be crucified:

And all the people answered and said, “His blood be on us and on our children.” Matthew 27:25

As so it was as the Roman army flooded into the city and killed 100’s of thousands of Jews by the sword. And those who were captured were sold into slavery.

Titus wanted to save the temple, but the Roman soldiers were so enraged at the wicked Jews, that they tore it down brick by brick, to be able to capture all of the gold.

This fulfilled Messiah’s words in Matthew 24:1-2, “Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.”

Day 1335 – Sept 70 A.D.

In correspondence with this is the recorded fact that a month and a half after the daily sacrifice failed, the siege was ended by Titus’ getting sudden and unexpected possession of the upper city, the last stronghold of the besieged.

This last action took place, according to Josephus, the seventh day of the Hebrew month Elul, answering to our September; so that the further duration of the siege after the failure of the daily sacrifice was approximately one month and a half (Wars, VI 8, 4, 5).

And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.” Matthew 24:22

That those days were “shortened” by some Divine interference, is indicated by the abrupt and unexpected manner in which the last stronghold fell. Josephus tells how the “tyrants” (the dominant faction in the city) surrendered.

“Did now wholly deprive themselves of the security they had in their own power, and came down from those very towers of their own accord, wherein they could never have been taken by force. …They left those towers of themselves; or rather they were ejected out of them by God Himself. …The Romans, when they had gotten on the last wall without any bloodshed, could hardly believe what they found to be true” (ibid).

In regard to the promised blessing of Daniel 12:12 (Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.), it may be observed that Titus immediately extended clemency to the survivors and he set free those who had been bound by the tyrants (Wars, VI, 9, 1).

Recalling the words of our Messiah when, referring to the same period of unequaled distress, He said in Matthew 24:13, “But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.”

So the followers of Messiah who had been taken captive by some Jews, were set free by Titus, fulfilling Messiah’s promise to those who endure during that time of great tribulation.

Note: 1,290 days + 45 days = 1335 days, so the 1,260, the 1,290 and the 1,335 day prophecies have been fulfilled. If you heard a Pastor teaching that they apply to the future, you now know that their teaching is false.

As you can see, the prophecies in Daniel 12 describe the desolation of the Jews and Jerusalem in 70 A.D., not a future tribulation period that affects the whole world.

Here’s the scene of the “time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation.”

100’s of thousands of Jews died inside the walled city of Jerusalem even before the Roman army entered the city. Nobody buried anyone for fear of being killed. All of those bodies were just heaped up in the streets and around the temple.

Many thousands of Jews were crucified outside the walled city, so that all the trees were full of dead bodies.

100’s of thousands of Jews were killed by the Roman sword.

97,000 Jews were captured and sold as slaves.

But everyone who was found written in the book of life, Messiah’s Church, were delivered.

This was the time of Jacob’s Trouble, not some end-times scenario.

And the “the power of the holy people had been completely shattered, and all these things were finished.” Daniel 12:7

So when you hear a prophecy teacher quoting verses from Daniel 9, 10, 11 and 12, to apply them to an end-times Antichrist, you now know that they are a False Prophet.

They may just be misguided, they may be a wolf in sheep’s clothing, either way their prophecy teachings are false, and they will be held accountable before the Father.

If your pastor is teachable (many aren’t), please share this study with them, for surely Elohim’s true ministers want to know the truth. Amen!

If you wonder how it’s possible that so many Pastors don’t understand the fulfillment of prophecy, click  on How The Deceptions Spread

The Word of God, the Bible is our authority on Daniel and Revelation prophecy




Print Friendly, PDF & Email

28 thoughts on “Daniel 12 Prophecy Foretold The Desolation Of The Jews”

  1. Though you have made a compelling argument for the preterist viewpoint. But how do you deal with the face that Israel is again a nation. Don’t you think that the prophecies are still ongoing such as Ezekiel valley of the dry bones prophecy being fulfilled in Israel being back in the land. Also, what of Ezekiel prophecy of God and Magog, the nations of Rosh, Persia, Meshech and Tubal becoming a coalition of sorts, which all are in Syria embanking Israel. Also, how does the preterists deal with the Global Agenda that is coming into fruition and resembles greatly of prophecies in Revelation. I would really appreciate a response, thanks and God bless!

    • My viewpoint is not a preterist one, just a historical one. I don’t believe that Revelation was fulfilled in the first few centuries, like preterists do. I teach the historical fulfillment on the Revelation Timeline Decoded website. https://revelationtimelinedecoded.com

      The modern state of Israel is filled with people who are Jews by religion, not blood. It is controlled by the Jesuit-Rothschild family, who are Satanists, which is why there’s a HEXagram on the Israeli flag, and not a menorah.

      Lord Rothschild is Gog, and the Khazar Jews are Magog. They have already come against the land, and killed the people who live there, the Palestinians. A great book if you can find it is The Matrix Of Gog by Daniel Patrick.

      The Khazars are the “kings of the east” in the sixth bowl of Revelation, who originated from Khazaria, which was in Eastern Europe. They were pushed out by other armies, and fled primarily to Russia and Poland.

      All of the Israeli Prime Ministers changed their last names, to sound more Jewish, but all of them came from Russia and Poland.

      They are the fake Jews that Messiah foretold in Revelation 3, who say they are Jews, but do lie, but are of the Synagogue of Satan.

      Here’s a link to my Revelation Fulfillment Summary, which shows the historical explanation for what’s already been fulfilled (most of it); where we’re at now on the fulfillment timeline (in the 6th bowl); and what will happen next as we await Messiah’s glorious return. The studies on the website prove it out verse by verse. https://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/revelation-fulfillment-timeline-summary/

      Keep learning and growing in The Way!

      • It seems you ignore Matthew 24:30 which in fact speaks of the Messiah’s return for all the world to see —- Being His return on Judgement Day.

  2. Hi David

    Thanks for your hard work. I use quite a bit of your studies when trying to help my family realize they’ve been deceived.

    I do have one point of contention though. A quote you’ve attributed to Josephus above doesn’t not come from his Jewish Wars, nor any of his work that I can find.

    “The seditious element fled in large numbers, and the peaceable inhabitants were about to throw open the gates to the Romans, when a remarkable thing took place, so unaccountable from any natural standpoint that it can only be attributed to the direct intervention of God, and for the fulfillment of the word of Christ.”

    I assume you’re aware of this as you didn’t reference the quote. Directly following however, you reference Wars 2, 19:6 which is where I believe your first quote is paraphrased from.

    “And now it was that a horrible fear seized upon the seditious, insomuch, that many of them ran out of the city, as though it were to be taken immediately; but the people upon this took courage, and where the wicked part of the city gave ground, thither did they come, in order to set open the gates, and to admit Cestius as their benefactor, who, had he but continued the siege a little longer, had certainly taken the city; but it was, I suppose, owing to the aversion God had already at the city, and the sanctuary, that he was hindered from putting an end to the war that very day.”

    Do you have a different translation of Jewish Wars? If so, would you mind sharing a link?

    Unrelated but something I think you may find interesting in regards to Daniel 9:26. Were you aware that “the people of the prince” should probably be “by the prince”? It’s such a subtle change but makes a large difference. I only mention it because I’ve had someone try to use antecedent grammar rules to claim that the “he” in verse 27 refers back to the “prince that shall come”.

    Here’s the basic breakdown: As you’re probably aware, the original Hebrew had no vowel pointings. When the Hebrew עם is taken as a preposition instead of a vowel נגיד עַ֣ם [‘am nagid] ‘people of the prince’ instead reads נָגִ֤יד עִם [‘im nagid] ‘by the prince’. I think it’s quite likely that either through error or malice vowel pointings were added to what was originally a preposition.

    Anyway thanks again for your work.

    • Thank you Stephen for your comment and for sharing the studies.

      The quote is from Philip Mauro in his book The Seventy Weeks and the Great Tribulation, which as you noted is based on the Wars 2.19.6

      The website studies could use some updating. Right now I’m focused on getting The Olivet Discourse Decoded book done, which has the quote from Josephus.

      That’s interesting about Daniel 9:26 maybe saying ‘by the prince.’ The important point is that the people are the Jews, as Daniel told us in Daniel 9:24. And the prince is Messiah the prince from Daniel 9:25.

      Keep learning and growing in The Way!

      • Thanks for the quick reply David.

        Ah ok thanks for that. I haven’t read that book yet so I ‘ll have to give it a look. Keep at it bro I appreciate your work getting the historicist view back into the spotlight. Blessings on your new book, I look forward to it.

        In regards to Daniel 9:26, the way it seems to read to me, especially leaving the preposition is that Messiah the Prince will destroy the city and the sanctuary using Titus. Interesting to note is that Titus, in exhorting his men to courage states multiple times that God is on their side. Of particular interest is this part:

        “…for as to the seditions they have been in, and the famine they are under, and the siege they now endure, and the fall of their walls without our engines, what can they all be but demonstrations of God’s anger against them, and of his assistance afforded us?”

        Most likely Titus wasn’t thinking of Yah when he said this, but the effect is the same. The only reason I mention this is because it makes it very clear that Titus was used by the Most High to carry out his judgment, similar to Nebuchadnezzar.

        Thanks for indulging me.

        • Thank you for sharing your insight Stephen. Yeah, Titus knew that he was used by the God of the Jews to carry out the days of vengeance against them.

          It’s interesting that the ‘people,’ the Jews, caused the desolation of the city and temple because it was their punishment for them rejecting Messiah and delivering Him up to be killed; and because they infuriated the normally peaceable Titus so much, that he commanded that the temple and city be destroyed.

          How do you see the Olivet Discourse in Matthew 24 fulfilled?
          Particularly verses 29-31?

          Keep learning and growing in The Way!

          • Oh you’ve hit the nail on the head there. Almost all of the destruction and killing was caused by the in-fighting, corruption and sedition of the inhabitants. Not to mention how many suffered the same exact death as the one they’d called for their Messiah to suffer and said let it be on us and our children.

            And Titus was even willing to spare the temple. “I do not force you to defile this your sanctuary; and if you will but change the place whereon you will fight, no Roman shall either come near your sanctuary, or offer any affront to it; nay, I will endeavor to preserve you your holy house, whether you will or not.”

            In regards to Matt. 24:29-31, I believe it marks the end of the Jewish church, Jewish nation and the rulers of both, and the final shift to the Gospel Kingdom. Their ruling powers are darkened and the power of the holy people is scattered (Dan. 12).

          • Yeah, the events of the Jewish-Roman War of 66-70 AD were amazing and gruesome, yet Pastors today don’t assign any prophecy to it. Daniel 12 points to the time of trouble, the days of vengeance, for the unbelieving Jews. The remnant of believing Jews were saved from the calamity when they saw the army of Cestius surround Jerusalem in Nov 66, the abomination of desolation. When Cestius and the army left for no reason, the saints fled Jerusalem to the mountains of Pella for safety.

            The physical types of Jerusalem, the temple and the Jewish leadership system; all pointed to Messiah. And after they were desolated, Messiah set up His Father’s kingdom. Compare the language of Matthew 24:30 to Daniel 7:13-14.

            Messiah is our High Priest, the saints (both believing Jews and gentiles) are the priests, called Holy Jerusalem by John in Revelation, and we are the temple that’s made without hands, in which the Father dwells. Messiah is the cornerstone, the disciples are the foundation and we are the little stones that make up the walls.

            Messiah set up His Father’s kingdom at the time when the Roman Empire was at it’s height of power, which is what the 1st seal of Revelation is describing. It set up the historical battle of Revelation, as the leaders of the Satan-empowered Roman beast have fought against Messiah and His saints during the last 1,900 years.

            Messiah’s kingdom has grown into a great mountain of people over the last 2,000 years, and when Messiah returns He will conquer the Roman beast kingdom.

  3. I find it interesting many comments speak of the Jewish Church which is a misstatement.
    I find it interesting you deny Christ’s own words of His return (on the last day ) in Matthew 24.

  4. David,
    Very good historicist view of Daniel, and how the End of the OT , Mosaic age, was indeed the latter days of Israel in the old covenant. Israel is also accepted into the new covenant, NT messianic age, (Heb 8, Jer 31) and there will be an end to that age as well. I see Matt 24 speaking to both ages, but in a reciprocal measure. For the OT, Mt 24 begins specific, but becomes more obscure. For the NT, Mt 24 begins obscure but becomes more specific.

    Let me challenge you with the OT day=year hermeneutic. You accept the 70×7 years of Dan 9 and the 1260 years of Dan 7, but you reject the 2300 days in Dan 8 and 1290/1335 days in Dan 12 as days only. What I have discovered is that ALL the numeral days in Daniel are fulfilled as literal days, when applied to the End of the OT age. When applied to the NT age fulfillment, they become years. Thus, the 1260, 2300, 1290, 1335 have fulfillment in years during the NT age, but days in the OT. Daniel 9 is messianic and OT, the climax of the generational change. The 490 days point to Messiah, and are thus NT years only.

    • Thank you for your comment Dan. Either you misunderstand what I teach or you misspoke; as I don’t “reject the 2300 days in Dan 8 and 1290/1335 days in Dan 12 as days only,” I teach that those prophecies are pointing to days.

      I find your explanation confusing. Define was is the OT age? and what is the NT age? Is it based on when the prophecy was given? When it was fulfilled?

      For the 1260, 2300, 1290, 1335; what is the days fulfillment? and what is the years fulfillment?



Leave a Comment